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Introducing, Ask Allie!

Allie Golon

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Introducing, Ask Allie! Our newest forum for obtaining answers to real-life issues in business and personal relationships -- for adult visual-spatial learners. Just post your situation or question to Allie. With your permission, your question/situation will be posted on this site (we are happy to remove any identifying information), on this page.

 

Allie,

Wow, after years of wondering whether I was lazy or just a victim of bad brain genes,  someone has finally given me some hope... and identity. This is incredibly encouraging as I ... still don't understand why I am the way I am, and still do the things I do. Here is my list (just a few actually):

1) I am incredibly discouraged about my handwriting. I write in block. I practice my signature over and over and even change it up a bit (this has risen some eybrows at the check out counter).

(Allie's response:)

Handwriting complaints are common among visual-spatial learners of all ages.  I’m going to recommend to you the same thing I do young students – calligraphy pens!  You don’t have to have formal lessons, just practice holding the pen (which you can find at Michael’s or any craft store – in a variety of colors, too!) so that the beveled edge sits at a 1:00/7:00 or 2:00/8:00 position.  Then write in whatever is comfortable, either print or manuscript.  Most people choose a combination of print and cursive.  Your skill at this will transfer to a regular pen or pencil.

Or, go ahead and purchase an inexpensive book on calligraphy.  Art engages your right hemisphere – your strong suit! Have fun and take time to learn this art.  I think you’ll be pleased with the results.

2) I work in TV production and do incredibly well as a cameraman/editor. I have just been thrust into the role of video engineer and now I have to work overnight to accomplish anything. I love what I do and love what I am learning... but everyday someone from management asks me to do some special audio/video set up and I just say "sure" without really knowing I can do it. Then I work all night making it happen. Then they come to me they next day all happy and ask what I did to make it work... then I don't have an answer becuase I honestly have no idea.

(Allie's response:)

Well, you are definitely a visual-spatial!  First, try and set some boundaries for yourself by doubling your estimates of the amount of time it will take you to accomplish anything.  VSLs have no concept of time and often make impossible commitments.  Next, realize that your mental images that allowed you to create what you did may not be translatable into words and that’s why you can’t explain how or what you did!  If it’s critical that you be able to explain yourself, jot notes (in picture form) as you work.



3) I'm frustrated as a professional because my dream is to direct movies (independent short films)... this is a very attainable dream becuase I have everything thing I need to make it happen. However it has taken me 5 years to come up with three pages of script and I have a very difficult time telling my actors what I expect from them. I wish I can just touch their hand and they would enter my mind in some magical way and see everything I am trying to tell them!!

(Allie's response:)

You might try working in a collaborative effort with others, including writers, who can “see” your vision.  Otherwise, know that downloading your mental images and translating them into words is a laborious process.  Explore other ways of communicating, either through demonstration or some other form of imagery.



4) My thoughts are exhausting. This is probably why I am always so tired.

(Allie's response:)

And, likely they are too numerous to mention.  Set aside some time every day for doodling or jotting down the pictures in your mind.  Sort of the equivalent of To Do Lists for auditory-sequentials, only yours are all your thoughts and ideas flooding out. 



5) I am best at golf when i visualize hitting the ball very well.. i not only hit the ball well, but i actually imitate the exact shot i visualize!

(Allie's response:)

In Linda Silverman’s book, Upside-Down Brilliance, she writes about a man taking flight lessons.  Every evening, following the lesson, he visualized the whole flight pattern.  He excelled in his class and outpaced all the other students – it was as though he’d had twice the flight time!  Did you know that the same areas of the brain are fired up whether you are visualizing the activity or actually doing it?  This was in Time magazine earlier this year in a study they did training people to play the piano.  Use this skill!!



6) I remember when I was in third grade and being very upset during reading assignments. I remember other kids flipping pages well before I was finshed my first page. I also remember the teachers saying i should be finished a certain number of pages in a certain amount of time... this caused me to skip a lot when I read and flipped pages just to keep up with other kids. Unfortunately this became a habit and Ive been fighting it ever since.

(Allie's response:)

Train yourself to speed read by skipping the “picture-less” words.  No comprehension test ever asked how many times the word, “the” appeared in a passage (a picture-less word).  You only need the words that paint the story, skip the rest. 



7) Why do I have to read "one sentence" over and over again to understand it? Even when I read very interesting books about things I like (computers, video technology) why can't I retain what I read?? Even if I understand it!!??

(Allie's response:)

Because you’re not simultaneously creating a mental movie as you read.  It takes some training so start off slowly.  Read until a punctuation, stop, and create in your mind the movie to match what you just read.  In time, graduate from stopping at punctuation to reading whole sentences, then whole paragraphs, then pages, etc.  When you have the movie to correspond to the reading, you’ll remember what you read.

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10) I cant organize my work, my room or my thoughts. but when i do find the 12 hours I need to organize at least one of them... I know it is temporary.

(Allie's response:)

Organization is highly overrated.  If you can find what you need, when you need it, you’re organized!!


Allie

Hi Allie,

I'm trying to teach myself (X)HTML so I can create my own websites.. And I had to realize this (which happened to me in school/college ALL the time): I'm trying to read some text..then I realize I have no idea what it said in the text, I read it again..still don't really know anything about what I've read..read again..again...again..and finally I actually understood what it says in the text. This doesn't always happen (I wouldn't be able to read a book then ;-)), but it happens frequently...I mean it's not like I'm dumb (if I believe any IQ tests or my experiences in life), but sometimes I have to read a certain phrase/passage like 5-10 times until it finally makes 'click' and I actually UNDERSTAND what I just read.

I'm thinking this must be due to being mostly a visual learner and having problems with text...as in reading it - other people understand immediately WHAT they read, but to me reading is sometimes just reading without understanding, until I read again (sometimes a couple of times). I'm sure you're gonna agree this should be related to being mostly a visual-learner. However, I was wondering if this was a very common trait among VSP learners..I was thinking, this should be one of the main problems among people who have problems with processing language/text as opposed to images. Or is this just me and there aren't many VSPs who have this problem?

Patrick

 

Hello, Patrick!

YES!!  This is extremely common among visual-spatial learners.  We see it children's lower reading comprehension scores.  It's because you don't think in words.  When someone who thinks in pictures is only given words, as in a book or within instructions, it often takes more than one pass to get enough of the words to create mental images.  When I work with kids, I tell them to stop, initially, at every sentence and make a movie in their mind of what they just read.  Then continue.  Eventually they move to whole paragraphs, making movies as they go, and then whole chapters, etc. 

What you were reading did not immediately create a mental image for you, so you had to re-read it.  Try taking it in smaller chunks and creating mental picturesas you go and see if that helps.  Let me know!

Allie

 

 

 

Dear Allie-

My question is this: while "Upside-Down Brilliance" is a great resource for the child VSL, I'm anxious to know more about adult VSL folks such as myself, specifically how we might be able to thrive in the post-academic workplace.

The reason I actually picked up "Upside-Down Brilliance " is because I am just leaving a three week stint at a job that I hated, very small-picture, detail oriented, paper pushing nonsense. The feedback my former employer gave me
was that I was a slow learner, and kept asking the same questions over again. At first I was bewildered why I was let go, I'm a pretty bright guy and have never struggled with being slow to pick up things before.

Then I found the book and everything clicked into place, but I still never want to repeat the mistake I made before and end up in another job that focuses on the small details to the exclusion of the big picture. Are there resources out there for adult VSL's looking to explore careers that are better suited for them?

Elijah

Dear Elijah,

Your question is a good one and I wish I had an equally good answer. I am working on a book for visual-spatial adults but, until you brought this up, the primiary focus was to be on business and personal relationships (why doesn't the marketing department get along with accounting? Why doesn't my husband hear me? etc.). You've brought up an excellent point about making sure there is a match between job and self.

One's learning style as a child typically becomes thinking style as an adult. Many people learn to compensate and lose their strengths of the right hemisphere, which is terribly sad. It's just as though you were to break your dominant arm: you could learn to write and play sports with your weaker arm and, eventually, you would do just fine, but it would never be the most efficient means for you and never your best work.

So how does one determine, before accepting a position, that there will be a good match between the strengths of the individual and the demands of the job? I would guess that, as a potential employee, you would need to "see"
everything about the proposed position, talk to as many current employees as possible, really understand from the hiring supervisor what the job will entail. The only way to see if the match is a good one, is to thoroughly understand every aspect of what will be expected of you.

Most VSL adults pursue careers that are obvious fits: computer technology, architecture, art, music, surgery, aviation, invention, etc. Many are entrepreneurs and venture on their own in order to accommodate unique thinking styles, unusual business hours, etc. What career path can you follow that would allow you to best utilize your strengths? Can you be a part of a team effort where someone who is more step-by-step, or detail-oriented is the one that handles the "small picture" details?

I believe the reason your employer complained at having to repeat directions was because you were not ever shown, be it in actual images or mental images, what was expected of you. VSLs have to see what the anticipatedoutcome is in order to produce it. They must understand the resulting goal in order to perform the steps to achieve it.

Does this make sense? I hope this is helpful.

Allie

 

I am a sales trainer for a call center in Canada, and am halfway through Dr. Silverman's book "Upside Down Brilliance", and had a couple of questions. I have identified, using learning style assessments, that there are an awful lot of VSL's working in not only this call center, but in our head office. 
 
My theory as to why this is, is because from reading the book, I gather that VSL's excel at the type of advanced communications skills required to funtion in a call center environment.  From what I gather, the advanced elements of communication are housed in the right hemisphere (humour, sarcasm, etc), and from my perspective as a trainer, it is those reps who are brightest, and with the more advanced ways of communicating who do best on the phones.
 
My other theory as to why there are so many VSL's here, is the 9-5 corporate world and rigid corporate structure just don't work for them, so they end up selling over the phone for a living.  Also, it is a fairly "low brain power" job for a bright creative person, which many of them find allows them to pursue their real passion, which for about half the people in here is some kind of Musical endeavor.
 
I am at the point in the Dr's book where she talks about repetition actually being detrimental to the learning of VSL's, and how VSL's repeating a task over and over can actually unlearn it.  I guess my question is:  Is this an accurate reading of what you she is trying to say?
 
The reason I ask is because there is no task more repetitive in the world than calling 200 strangers a day and trying to sell them something.  What I am finding is that I am having to teach the same basic skill set, as if I were teaching if from scratch, roughly every 3-6 months to people whom I percieve as being otherwise very bright, if not gifted.
   
A hearty thank you in advance for whatever help you are able to offer.
Warmest Regards,
 
 
Jason Allen

Training Manager, Hamilton

 

Hi Jason!

 
You are understanding Linda's points correctly, drill and repetition are useless to visual-spatial learners.  Linda likes to give this example: 

Call up in your mind's eye a favorite poster or painting within your home.  You can see it, mentally, with ease, right?  Now drill and repeat that image.   Isn't that a ridiculous request?  It's silly because you don't need to drill and repeat it, it's an image.  Images are permanent.  Visual-spatial learners think in images, so there's no need for drill. 

My hunch is that the reason you are seeing a need for repetition in your training of these otherwise bright individuals, is that they don't have an image of what they've learned.  It's not permanent.  Role playing is the only way I can think of, off the top of my head, for training to become a permanent image in this situation. 

I don't think it's so much an issue of unlearning the material by having it repeated as much as the method of instruction must not be meaningful enough for them to be remembering. 

Hope this helps!

Allie

 

Dear Allie,

I am an ICU nurse, and I am starting to precept new nurses to the unit.  My first experience with precepting was an absolute nightmare.  I had the worst time trying to show the trainee nurse her new role.  After reading "Upside -Down Brilliance"  I realized part of the problem is the fact that I am a visual-spatial learner, and the trainee was an auditory-sequential learner. 

An ICU is a very visual environment with many skills and observations to learn.  In fact the first thing a nurse is often asked is "Well, what does the patient look like?"  The first trainee didn't stay, but my manager has told me that I will be precepting again.  If I get another auditory-sequential learner, how do I get them to understand the fluid organization of skills and observations that they would need to know to function in my work environment?  I could have been speaking Russian to the first trainee.  We are quite desperate for nurses, and I don't want lose another.

Hi!

 Thanks for writing.  This is a very unusual question as I almost always hear from auditory-sequentials who have no idea how to communicate to the visual-spatials in their lives! 

So, here are some immediate thoughts that come to mind: Just as you need mental images to fully understand what's going on in your workplace, these auditory-sequential trainees need words.  They require step-by-step instruction as they are typically not accustomed to seeing or understanding the big picture.  This may be the first time that they have faced a challenge in learning because, as auditory-sequential learners, most, if not all, of their education has been delivered in a step-by-step, word-friendly manner.  Now, they are suddenly thrust into a visual environment and -- you're right -- you may as well be speaking a different language to them! 

Consider how much of the hands-on job activities can be found in word format.  Are there procedure manuals they can review?  Are there step-by-step protocols for them to follow until the procedures become automatic?  Do case studies exist that they can read about and learn from?  Words, words, words is what they need. 

What are the organizational strategies in place that you may take for granted because you see them, where others may need to be more formally informed?  Are there activities that can be documented because they are routine enough for the well trained but are not as obvious to someone new to that environment?  Perhaps you and your colleagues could spend a bit of time creating such documentation so that the success of those to come is more assured? 

Again, thank you for the question.  I hope this helps!

Allie

 

 

 

 

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